When it’s stated women exchanged their natural relations for unnatural ones ἀρσενοκοῖται - is referring to sodomy - there is use of the term as being an act can occur when a male penetrates a servant(male/boy) OR when a male penetrates a female from behind - the only way this could possibly be used in both cases is if it was regarding hedonistic sodomy - however the language of the Bible is a funny thing, and I highly suggest the channel above - there have been changes made to the book and the scriptures have been edited - but the spirit via the co-creative faculty finds its way through, sometimes it just takes seeing things with a new set of eyes🙏🏻 God bless my friend - do not lose faith (and this is coming from someone who doesn’t support any political paradigm - and sees the identity politics of the left as nothing less than a toxic way of looking at the world…so I am not trying to change an interpretation to fit an ideology)
Yes I do trust and believe in Christ. God bless you.
No sorry re arsenokoites when you look at Paul in combination with the Leviticus verse it can only mean “male sleeping with male as with a woman”. There is no other rational way to interpret the word.
Furthermore the documentary reliability of the New Testament is unimpeachable: many early church fathers, lectionaries, early copies widely geographically dispersed, translations into Coptic Syriac Latin etc etc - I think we have a very reliable text (the biggest differences are the textus receptus ie in English KJV and earlier versions eg summarised in the NA28 - and these differences are insignificant actually)
Furthermore the practice of the early church supports this - they encouraged celibacy or marriage - any other sexual relationships were seen as sin.
I was indeed saddened to discover this as I have had many friends and acquaintances who are gay - I too have no agenda, indeed would have been motivated to find the opposite (in view of the social consequences of holding an unpopular view) - however we must follow the text where it leads - we must find out what the facts are and thereby submit ourselves to God by trusting and obeying the word of God.
Check out the channel Jason Bickford - Symbols Patterns and Gnosis - https://youtu.be/YTk776PZOAs
When it’s stated women exchanged their natural relations for unnatural ones ἀρσενοκοῖται - is referring to sodomy - there is use of the term as being an act can occur when a male penetrates a servant(male/boy) OR when a male penetrates a female from behind - the only way this could possibly be used in both cases is if it was regarding hedonistic sodomy - however the language of the Bible is a funny thing, and I highly suggest the channel above - there have been changes made to the book and the scriptures have been edited - but the spirit via the co-creative faculty finds its way through, sometimes it just takes seeing things with a new set of eyes🙏🏻 God bless my friend - do not lose faith (and this is coming from someone who doesn’t support any political paradigm - and sees the identity politics of the left as nothing less than a toxic way of looking at the world…so I am not trying to change an interpretation to fit an ideology)
Oh btw I will have a listen to that channel - who knows? Maybe he knows something I don’t.
Oh re women exchanging relations is a different issue, than arsenokoites I think which is not mentioned in the verse in Romans
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Yes I do trust and believe in Christ. God bless you.
No sorry re arsenokoites when you look at Paul in combination with the Leviticus verse it can only mean “male sleeping with male as with a woman”. There is no other rational way to interpret the word.
Furthermore the documentary reliability of the New Testament is unimpeachable: many early church fathers, lectionaries, early copies widely geographically dispersed, translations into Coptic Syriac Latin etc etc - I think we have a very reliable text (the biggest differences are the textus receptus ie in English KJV and earlier versions eg summarised in the NA28 - and these differences are insignificant actually)
Furthermore the practice of the early church supports this - they encouraged celibacy or marriage - any other sexual relationships were seen as sin.
I was indeed saddened to discover this as I have had many friends and acquaintances who are gay - I too have no agenda, indeed would have been motivated to find the opposite (in view of the social consequences of holding an unpopular view) - however we must follow the text where it leads - we must find out what the facts are and thereby submit ourselves to God by trusting and obeying the word of God.